tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post1920943910338639511..comments2023-10-12T14:50:02.410+01:00Comments on Not Voodoo: Make ads not artwilliamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10937585600771849760noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-14393946831021833262009-06-12T10:24:24.449+01:002009-06-12T10:24:24.449+01:00have a google of 'purefold', it's quit...have a google of 'purefold', it's quite an interesting take on product placement.Mike Lauriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16765082635676733134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-40285959983277734982009-06-10T21:05:16.956+01:002009-06-10T21:05:16.956+01:00And yet...I bet the cityboy shitwipes who lapped i...And yet...I bet the cityboy shitwipes who lapped it up from the wrong direction deified the brands in the same way that Patrick Bateman did.<br /><br />Funny how you can be an insane serial killer and also a powerful brand spokesman...Ben Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276467778670946461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-66250047120227705222009-06-10T19:26:29.893+01:002009-06-10T19:26:29.893+01:00Sure.
American Psycho is a very good example, bec...Sure.<br /><br />American Psycho is a very good example, because it demonstrates that it is intention that matters.<br /><br />Obviously if Bret Easton Ellis had got Oliver Peoples or Ralph Lauren involved before he started writing, the client might have had just a few little issues.williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10937585600771849760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-670973650027258742009-06-10T17:38:19.867+01:002009-06-10T17:38:19.867+01:00So you don't disagree in principle; you just d...So you don't disagree in principle; you just don't think it can be done?<br /><br />American Psycho would have been all the poorer for a lack of brands. And decapitating whores/walking around with their severed heads on your Johnson.Ben Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276467778670946461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-22767474161597192342009-06-10T14:22:46.944+01:002009-06-10T14:22:46.944+01:00Brand names fill our world, so why not write about...Brand names fill our world, so why not write about them? Some authors could argue it helps define what kind of world they're creating. A reader probably won't know what a specific Sony alarm clock looks like, but they might have a pretty good mental image of Sony products and the kind of person who might buy one.<br /><br />I say this after re-reading the Silence of the Lambs. Thomas Harris is well known for using luxury products to define Hannibal's personality. When he stabs you in the guts, it will be with the best stiletto money can buy and when he eats your brains, he'll fry them in a Le Creuset.<br /><br />This for me works, although you could say it's a lazy way of defining character. What I found jarring in the book was how Clarice Starling constantly 'chugged Coke.'It just made me think the author must drink loads of the stuff.<br /><br />Interestingly, former ad copywriter Fay Weldon was paid by Bulgari for her book, the Bulgari Connection. And it seems loads of others have done it too:<br /><br />http://www.usatoday.com/money/advertising/2006-09-10-books-product-placement_x.htmTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09417921452254527359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-42885753595716276802009-06-10T12:58:45.555+01:002009-06-10T12:58:45.555+01:00I'm not sure you'd get any brands to buy i...I'm not sure you'd get any brands to buy into it, cause otherwise they'd be held to ransom constantly by novelists - which is a delicious idea but just not what life is like.<br /><br />Unless you agree to let them fuck you beforehand they're not interested, because they don't get to exert power. <br /><br />I often think that's the subtext with clients - it's just a chance for high-achieving conformists to order creative people around, which is what they've wanted to do since they were at school.williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10937585600771849760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-79668842012943440202009-06-10T12:43:27.246+01:002009-06-10T12:43:27.246+01:00What if you write your book with no thought to pro...What if you write your book with no thought to product placement, then do not change a word of it, then get some broker to get some money off any companies you happen to mention?Ben Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276467778670946461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-87931825578811407572009-06-10T12:28:28.762+01:002009-06-10T12:28:28.762+01:00Amen to that.
I think people, while they don't...Amen to that.<br />I think people, while they don't particularly 'like' ads, live with them because they know they're part of the deal. And *some* are useful, and some do their business without punching you in face.<br /><br />But it really spoils the enjoyment of a film when you see a product shoe-horned in there. It feels like it's not a particularly good ad for the product, and it's really detrimental to the film.Sell! Sell!https://www.blogger.com/profile/10702354938890218799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21811294.post-5760109838147997412009-06-10T12:25:25.487+01:002009-06-10T12:25:25.487+01:00No, sorry.No, sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com